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You down with Orlando P?

Yeah you know me!!!!O.k....so his OBP...OPS....RISP....and AEIOU (and sometimes Y) might not be league leading.But he sure seems to get his share of pinch hits.(O.k...now that I re-read this is seems...

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I'm just saying that while he has been impressive for this one week, I still think we need to upgrade his position in the off season. Yes he has hit .298 since the break, but it has come with a .298...

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I suspect we got Palmeiro to keep the Cardinals from re-signing him. Which may explain part of the reason for the Cardinals signing PK.

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Quote:The fact is, he's a bench player with a low average, no power (0 HR), no speed (0 SB, 1 CS), and average defense.But he's a pinch hitter. As we all know, PHers just don't have the reps or the...

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Not worth a million dollars, though.

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Quote:Not worth a million dollars, though. If OP is part of the reason that the owner upgraded his labor budget, what's the problem with whether he makes a million, 2 million, 4 million, or...

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i was a pretty big palmeiro detractor from the outset, i pretty mcuh always expected failure when he came up to bat and i'm pretty happy that i've been wrong...at least latelyi think we should look at...

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What's affecting this team overall though is that we allow a hot August, September, and October to cloud our thinking. Yes, we have had hot finishes the last three years, but we are still one game...

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For all of the flack I've given OP this year, I'll gladly eat crow. He's done well lately and is closing in on a team record..."Orlando Palmeiro has moved within one pinch hit of tying the Astros'...

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Barzilla, as usual, you made some very good points. However, OP is here, signed for another year, and IMO, he's done what he was signed to do. I'm sure there was/is a player out there that could fill...

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OP is not anywhere close to a main reason this club has struggled offensively or has been a .500 club this year.If the main problems had done what they were expected and signed to do over the course...

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True, he is not the main reason and never said he was. My argument is simply that a productive fourth outfielder type would have come in handy. In point of fact, there are dozens of corner outfielders...

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Quote:We see that he brings contact to the table, but we are conveniently forgetting that there have been many instances this year when we could have used a reasonably productive corner outfielder....

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Agreed that OP was not the main reason for this season's shortcomings nor should we have gotten to the point where we needed him to become a productive outfielder, but when you are in that position,...

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I submit that a lot of people would have been equally unhappy to see the team in the playoff hunt down the stretch and see Gar have to run Preston "Call Me K" Wilson or Charlton "Mini Me" Jimerson out...

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If you want to play the "what-if" game, Amy, you could speculate that the Cards would have a couple more losses on the year if Wilson wasn't released. I think that his RBIs were the difference in at...

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Now that we're all more or less settled on the OP performance issue, I'd like to humbly submit the hare-brained notion that OP should've gotten more playing time in that critical corner OF spot.I know...

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I have to agree with Amy's previous post that OP's value increases when he is not overexposed. He had occasional starts earlier in the season and he didn't do much with them. Last season he got more...

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Scrybby,It's all about PRODUCTION. Run scoring follows certain numbers more closely than others. Believe me, I'm really sensitive to the argument that making contact is a good thing. I did some...

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well said, Barz... God knows we see a lot of contact from Ausmus turn into two outs in a jiffy. Altho I ain't complaining about his contact tonight! Eight in a row, gotta love it!

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I'm tickled that Palmeiro finally has begun to make contributions here and there. My problem with him is that he is overpaid (about half of that money could go toward another player) and that he takes...

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